"In the twentieth century I believe there are no saints left..." (11). "Happy Dust", The Nightingales of Troy ~Alice Fulton
The Nightingales of Troy
BLOG ONE WEDNESDAY JUNE 1ST-ARYANA
First Week Team Leader Blogger Question for Discussion is,“Time is one of the book’s large themes. ‘And though my children were sleeping the sleep of the just, I half believed my unvoiced thoughts would reach them across that room full of twentieth-century light,’ Mamie thinks at the end of the first story. What do her thoughts suggest about time?”
(remember we have a week to respond, but be courteous to your team leader's prompt address of the question)
BLOG 2 WEDNESDAY JUNE 8TH-TANYA
Week 2 Team Leader Blogger Question for Discussion is,“Alice Fulton has called the past ‘the ultimate foreign country.’ The Nightingales of Troy covers a century with remarkable attention to detail. It’s full of fascinating period objects and artifacts, from cosmetics to medical equipment. How do these cultural objects and markers deepen your sense of the past?”
Meeting Wednesday, June 16th from 4-6ish in room CC3345. We will do the book vote around 5:30 pm. Those of you who cannot make it to the book vote can vote via email. I will send you packets of the selections and then you can email me back with your picks. Let me know if you are interested!
Friday, March 11, 2011
Fate
In the second part of the story, it seems like Panchaali is more by duty that anything else, and that it is the duty she feels owed by her husbands that keeps her on the path to vengeance. This is dangerous, because in being consumed by the obligations that bind her and her husbands together, she begins to lose sight of herself. In the year of hiding when Panchaali becomes the servant of a queen, she thinks to herself, "It seemed that everything I'd lived until now had been a role. The princess who longed for acceptance, the guilty girl whose heart wouldn't listen, the wife who balanced her fivefold role precariously, the rebellious daughter-in-law, the queen who ruled in the most magical of palaces, the distracted mother, the beloved compoanion of Krishna, who refused to learn the lessons he offered, the woman obsessed with vengeance--none of them were the true Panchaali. If not, who was I?" (229). I don't know if this is Divakaruni's comment on something that happens to Indian women, who are often pulled into the role of caring for the men in their lives, or if this is just another way for Divakaruni to emphasize fate in Panchaali's life by undermining her free will and thus her sense of self. As I was reading, I also asked the question "Who is Panchaali?" There seems to be no constancy in her sense of self; it's always changing to suit the particular role that she is required to fill. The only time that I get the sense that she is truly herself is when she is alone in one of her gardens in the Palace of Illusions, or she is thinking about Karna because those are two things that are strongly connected to her own desires. It seems like her fate is just a huge denial of her own wants and needs, and that the one thing that she is allowed to have (the war) will destroy what little happiness she has left.
Thursday, March 10, 2011
Meanings and Realities of Inequality
Tuesday, March 8, 2011
groovy t-shirts
Blue Gods and Firebabies
Sorry to be blogging several days late! Let me say first, that I am really enjoying this book. I am trying to resist the urge to look up the actual Mahabharat, lest I spoil the story. I have also resisted the urge to read other people’s blogs before writing this one, so I’m sorry if there’s overlap in what I say and what other people have said (but not really).
To respond to this week’s question, I think Dhri and Panchaali/Draupadi’s birth from fire is absolutely literal. This story is of a time and place in which Deity and magic are totally real, and play a part in every day life. When Krishna’s magical exploits (demon killing, mountain lifting, superhuman seduction) and possible godhood are addressed (8 – 10), Panchaali, of course, brushes them off, as people love to exaggerate (19). But her tone indicates that she doesn’t really feel there is reason these things couldn’t being true. In other words, her close personal acquaintance might be a god, but this matter doesn’t bear much consideration or concern.
Then also there is Panchaali’s question to Dhai Ma (sorry I don’t have the page number or exact quote), if Dhai Ma believes human beings can be born from gods. Dhai Ma’s response is basically, “just as surely as they can be born from fire!” It strikes me that she is referring to a literal fire-birth here.
On the other hand, I’m made to wonder whether the author is attempting to normalize what would appear divine, when Panchaali and Krishna’s skin tones come up (once again, sorry no page number). They are both stated to be so dark that they are called blue. I wonder if this actually might have been the origin of blue gods and heroes in the Hindu tradition – I mean whether blue was originally a description of realistic and very dark human skin color, which Hindu artists later took to be literally and unnaturally blue.
Either way, this is a story about real people. I don’t see why some aspects of what we now would call magic and divinity could not be fully literal – so much so that the human characters in Illusions are a little jaded toward them – while some aspects might be explained away, and nothing special.
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I really like Panchaali, the clever and slightly rebellious girl who tussles with destiny and tradition vs. choice. My favorite of her exchanges, and one which I feel helps the reader get to know her pretty well, is on page 40, when the sage makes reference to her pride, temper, and vengefulness. She glares and fires back, “I’m not like that!”
That’s all for now.
-Kevin
Monday, March 7, 2011
Cosmic Restriction
Some of the most interesting tension in the story comes from seeing how the characters play the greater or lesser power vested in their particular position. For example, Kunti the merciless and seemingly all-controlling mother of the Pandava brothers, walks a fine line in her maternal manipulations and in trying to establish her sons securely. Her personal power comes through being a mother...but that only lasts if her sons gain status. She feels the pressure. (119)
Another example, of precarious power play is the fact of Panchalii's marriage to all five brothers. On the one hand, as Dhai Ma points out Panchaali has now the "freedom men had had for centuries." (120) On the other, Panchaali has to be given the "boon" of regaining her virginity after spending her allotted period of time with each husband, to maintain her chastity as dictated by social expectations of a proper woman. Divakaruni observes that what seems to be unprecedented equity for this female character is actually another manifestation of fate assigning her the role of "communal drinking cup" or object shared among men. At the same time, this experience serves as venue for Panchaali to articulate to the reader her own desires and to gain deeper understanding into another strong female character in the story, her mother in law Kunti.
Divakaruni shows how each character behaves according to their allotted role/s (as is a prime lesson of the Mahabharata) and simultaneously turns the story inside out by illustrating the female characters' motivations, and at least one female character's internal narrative.
First Chapters!~
How funny, when I read "The smoke rose" I pictured a literal rose made out of smoke. I might be accidentally making some of the visual images even more interesting.
It seems like in a lot of old stories and mythology, the line between reality and myth is blurred. It humors me that even the characters in the book acknowledge that there is a level of myth in their lives. The difference is the realism of prophecy in their world.