So. What can I say about this powerful little book? My experience of Woman at Point Zero has been a sudden shift into a world that was previously invisible to me, a glimpse into a corner of human experience that we as Americans tend to avoid looking into as much as possible. First of all, I wasn't aware that the novel had a non-fictional basis until I read Saadawi's preface, which did an excellent job at giving me the literal background of the story, but nothing prepared me for the darkly poetic imagery which engulfs the reader as Firdaus plunges into her fast-paced, but strikingly detailed life story.
I feel like the translator, Sherif Hetata, deserves recognition here, because he has either preserved the poetic quality of the original language or has created a new piece of art himself. The way the story flows is organic as human memory, recalling some details and leaving some out, skimming over some time periods and lingering on others, conveying the harsh reality of her life with a sort of calm detachment, as if it was being told by someone who is already dead. The exact words have no doubt been altered from what the real Firdaus said, but I feel that this was done with so much skill that it in a way brings her back to life. Phrases and imagery repeat themselves in certain places, taking the reader beyond the "what where and when" story and into the mind and essence of Firdaus. For example, the image of the eyes of her mother, "two rings of intense white around two circles of intense black", repeats with any character who treats Firdaus like a human being, all of which are women with one exception, mens features aren't often described in detail, except the nasty thing on Sheikh Mahmoud's chin.
As the story progresses, I get the sense that Firdaus' life is rushing past with such intensity that she has no time to analyze her experiences. Things happen to her, things are done to her, and things happen around her, she's given no explanation and given no opportunity to question, input, or even react-- it's a story told from the perspective of an object, able to observe but unable to make any choices affecting her place in the world... until the time a man puts a ten pound note into her hand and she realizes that with money, she can do. Only then did she become an active participant in her life story. She had known about money, but she had been taught to ignore it, mirroring the way that in this country we're taught to ignore the fact that Firdaus' world really exists.
I think what's powerful about Realism is that it reminds us that real human lives don't follow the same patterns as stories do. When she met Ibrahim I couldn't help but hope that he would marry her and they would live happily ever after, even though I knew that isn't how it happens. Her moment of euphoria when she realizes she loves him is the brightest happiest paragraph in the book, and I felt angry at her co-worker for breaking her illusion so quickly (90).
Anyway, as to the answer to the prompt question, the difference for Firdaus between being a prostitute and being a lower-level female employee is that as a prostitute she had dignity, didn't fear anything, and felt that she was in control of her life rather than a slave to a company. She sees that women in the working class humiliate themselves for fear of being homeless or having to resort to a prostitute, a fear which she sees as illusory because of the freedom and self-respect she felt when she was a prostitute. After Ibrahim tosses her to the curb like a cigarette butt, she reflects that as a prostitute she was never really emotionally hurt by anyone because she never made herself vulnerable to it, but by falling in love she expected something more than to be treated like shit, which made it hurt more than anything ever had before to be treated like shit by this particular man. With Ibrahim was the only time that the sexual act was described as an act of "giving"-- she never gave anyone anything as a prostitute. This causes her to see marriage, as well as employment, as just another form of slavery.
Do you guys think this is true? This isn't to say that this is true for everyone obviously, but based on her experiences, in her world, the most freedom she has ever known is the freedom of choosing who to sell herself to. As a prostitute she can choose not to go to the "Head of State", whoever that was, and has nothing to lose by refusing it, but as an employee you have to do whatever you're told or else you lose your job, and as a wife you have to do whatever your husband says or else you get beaten (and probably get beaten anyway just for being a woman). I think this is an intriguing example of how values can be relative: for some, marriage is bliss, for her, it is torture. Do you think that Firdaus is an "honorable" woman, or would it have been more honorable for her to stay with her husband? What does honorable mean anyway?
More trigger questions: What else have you noticed about the attitude and tone of the book and how it changes as it goes on? What imagery sticks in your mind the most? Besides the description of the eyes that I mentioned, where else do you see repetition of certain phrases, and what effect does that have? Do you think that vivid imagery comes from the words of the real Firdaus, or was it added by Saadawi?
To end with, a favorite quote:
"Now I had learnt that honour required large sums of money to protect it, but that large sums of money could not be obtained without losing one's honour. An infernal circle whirling round and round, dragging me up and down with it" (99).
"In the twentieth century I believe there are no saints left..." (11). "Happy Dust", The Nightingales of Troy ~Alice Fulton
The Nightingales of Troy
Welcome to The Nightingales of Troy...
BLOG ONE WEDNESDAY JUNE 1ST-ARYANA
First Week Team Leader Blogger Question for Discussion is,“Time is one of the book’s large themes. ‘And though my children were sleeping the sleep of the just, I half believed my unvoiced thoughts would reach them across that room full of twentieth-century light,’ Mamie thinks at the end of the first story. What do her thoughts suggest about time?”
(remember we have a week to respond, but be courteous to your team leader's prompt address of the question)
BLOG 2 WEDNESDAY JUNE 8TH-TANYA
Week 2 Team Leader Blogger Question for Discussion is,“Alice Fulton has called the past ‘the ultimate foreign country.’ The Nightingales of Troy covers a century with remarkable attention to detail. It’s full of fascinating period objects and artifacts, from cosmetics to medical equipment. How do these cultural objects and markers deepen your sense of the past?”
Meeting Wednesday, June 16th from 4-6ish in room CC3345. We will do the book vote around 5:30 pm. Those of you who cannot make it to the book vote can vote via email. I will send you packets of the selections and then you can email me back with your picks. Let me know if you are interested!
BLOG ONE WEDNESDAY JUNE 1ST-ARYANA
First Week Team Leader Blogger Question for Discussion is,“Time is one of the book’s large themes. ‘And though my children were sleeping the sleep of the just, I half believed my unvoiced thoughts would reach them across that room full of twentieth-century light,’ Mamie thinks at the end of the first story. What do her thoughts suggest about time?”
(remember we have a week to respond, but be courteous to your team leader's prompt address of the question)
BLOG 2 WEDNESDAY JUNE 8TH-TANYA
Week 2 Team Leader Blogger Question for Discussion is,“Alice Fulton has called the past ‘the ultimate foreign country.’ The Nightingales of Troy covers a century with remarkable attention to detail. It’s full of fascinating period objects and artifacts, from cosmetics to medical equipment. How do these cultural objects and markers deepen your sense of the past?”
Meeting Wednesday, June 16th from 4-6ish in room CC3345. We will do the book vote around 5:30 pm. Those of you who cannot make it to the book vote can vote via email. I will send you packets of the selections and then you can email me back with your picks. Let me know if you are interested!
"as if it was being told by someone who is already dead" This is interesting! I agree that that is how it felt!
ReplyDeleteIt seemed that she felt that the world of prostitution was far more self-respecting, because at least then she could have freedom, and she would not give herself for free to her husband, or sleep with people at work to get another month on the job. It was the only job she could do where her price was high, and where she had an option to reject or choose who had her company.
I think the marriage not being bliss was not just based upon her personality, but the society as a whole. Others were willing to accept it because it is as it is, but she was not able to. Marriage as described in the book did not sound in the least blissful, but when it's all that is available, many are willing to accept it how it is, even with all that is wrong with it.
I don't think she is honorable or dishonorable, because although it was not an honorable choice to become a prostitute, in her life and her circumstances, she had no other option to preserve her dignity.. which seems ironic. Honorable is making the right choice. In this case, there was no right choice.
Honor in the book was what society decides honor is.
I wondered, why did she keep seeing that wall that looked like a person? It was bizarre. I found the repetition very interesting.
The first time she told that story, at the school, I was convinced that was her mother. Because the book said her mother was 'gone', right? Like the husband replaced her? Wait, I may have confused myself. What did other people think about the woman at the school?
A plethora of engaging thoughts here.
ReplyDeleteI'll alight on the honor train of thought.
Honor, I think, depends on agency,
Power over own self, body and soul.
To prostitute self is honorable
insofar as it one's best option.
But a choice isn't a choice unless free.
I'd like to comment about what Adam picked up on regarding the quickness which Firdaus tells her story. It actually feels at times that her whole life is flashing before her eyes (like they often say will happen in near death situations) and sometimes it feel like she is in a deep neurosis, like the repeating of scenes word for word but just a change in character. The first time this happened (with Ibrahim I believe) I had to go back and make sure I had really read all of that scene with the teacher Iqbal before, thought I was having some neurosis myself. Excellent perception regarding the narration of the story, Adam!
ReplyDeleteI did want to post some thoughts regarding the prompt too. I think Firdaus makes a great case for being a prostitute compared to being an employee of a company. First she mentions her major downgrade in housing, "What I called home was not a house, or a flat, but merely a small room without a toilet...I was always up at five, so that I would have time to take my towel, and go down to join the queue of men and women standing in front of the bathroom. For my meager salary did not permit me to live anywhere else than in this house, situated in a narrow back street with rows of small shops where plumbers and blacksmiths plied their trade" (80).
So not only does Firdaus have a major change in income, but she now has to live like a totally different class than what she had been accustomed to as a "disrespected prostitute". The light begins to dawn for her when she starts to see the difference between going to work as an employee and going to work as a management position. There are two separate entrances and the one for regular employees tracks every move they make to and fro, in and out. As a prostitute she made her own hours and came and went as she pleased. She now has to take city transport and the bus is disgusting and violating. At least as a prostitute she was being well paid for men to rub against her; on the bus she gets violently pushed against for nothing.
Her epiphany comes with a settling feeling for the reader, I believe. She now realizes that the respect she thought she had as a prostitute was as much there as she believed it was and that this is not the life for her, "After I spent three years with the company I realized that as a prostitute I had been looked upon with more respect, been valued more highly than all female employees, myself included" (81).
Freedom for Firdaus is making her own choice about what to do with her body; her mind cannot be touched by the probing dirty fingers of her nameless John's. This is sacred.
(what a lovely day to sit outside and read a book. it was nice to have one we can finish in one sitting. so satisfying.)
Can't wait to hear what everyone else has to say and if Kevin decides to use the prompt next week or "go out on his own" as Adam did...
It has been quite an emotional read thus far. I felt an urgency at Firdaus' flow of telling her story as well. Much like Adam mentioned with Realism and how actual life doesn't often move in the most comfortable of ways, I find that even with this being a translation, the breath of someone telling another the story of how they got to where they're at is evident. Just like talking in real life - not so smooth and peppered with cuts and breaks. Just like Victoria pointed out, I completely felt like this was a person who has contemplated the end and is just sharing pieces of herself so delicate, that she had to have someone there to carry them. It seemed that's why she agreed to see El Saadawi after going so long without seeing anyone.
ReplyDeleteConcerning life as a prostitute versus an employee . . . currently what weighs on me is at what cost do ideals like freedom, respect, or social status take on a person. I do find that the reminder of the inevitability of death seems to be woven into Firdaus' story. We can find negative aspects to her life as a prostitute and as a faceless employee and also understand the various arguments of where more freedom lies, but what never left me was all the pain and damage that shaped her journey and that the freedom or comfort she finds is in almost choosing the negative she can manipulate or tolerate more. Individual johns over a corporation. I think, just like in real life, the reader is left to wonder about the respect or freedom she felt and wonder how hollow or substantial they were considering the sources of where they came. What stays with me is, just like the locked room she finds herself in, the life of a prostitute or the societal struggles she felt as a mere employee were her only two options. Like she was confined to those two things alone.
I'm really looking forward to talking with everyone about this book when we meet up again.
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